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Episode86-A Truly Astonishing Amount of Random Magic Musings

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Re: Episode86-A Truly Astonishing Amount of Random Magic Musings

Postby Kurai_Seraphim on Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:21 am

I think the issue wasn't about the fact that Pro Players are selfish for wanting more than to get paid to lay the game so much as pro players look down on people who don't want to invest significant amounts of time and money on a game. Connely implied that the game was being hindered because Wizards was printing more things geared towards casual players and that it was really unfair for Pro players to get a much smaller piece of the Magic pie, which Chewie took issue with because Pro players are very much paid for by casual players. The entire point of the Pro Tour is to drum up interest in the cards and generate casual sales, so if Wizards finds another way to up casual sales it isn't that surprising that they'll cut out the middle man and focus on casual players.

Personally, when I listened to the MNM episode Chewie was griping about, I didn't really hear things in as negative of a light as they were portrayed here. I think Connely was a bit out of line by implying that Magic is a progressive experience from new player to casual player to pro, which implies both that casual players are simply inferior as players to tournament players and that people who don't start pumping significant resources into the game to pursue a pro career are in the same class as people who play the game with no lands.

As far as I'm concerned, it kind of sucks that Pro Players keep losing high profile events, but honestly the costs of being a pro player are absurd for people who actually have jobs and don't want to invest in plane tickets and hotels only to go 0-2 due to unfortunate random matchups when they arrive. If only 8-16 people at a 600 person event can be considered to do "well", then most people don't want to spend that kind of time and money to pursue it. It doesn't make them worse players; it just means they're capable of playing poker without betting their car.
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Re: Episode86-A Truly Astonishing Amount of Random Magic Musings

Postby Chewbaca X on Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:27 am

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Re: Episode86-A Truly Astonishing Amount of Random Magic Musings

Postby Kurai_Seraphim on Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:32 am

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Re: Episode86-A Truly Astonishing Amount of Random Magic Musings

Postby jctyler on Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:08 pm

Ya, Im one of those people who has a real job and I go to big events and scrub out. It does suck but I only do it every so often so I tend to make it a vacation, since Ive usually got my wife and kids with me. And Chewie, I own both game platforms and I never even turn my xbox on anymore. Im getting my subscrption again here soon just for duels of the planeswalkers. Other than that I hate my xbox.
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Re: Episode86-A Truly Astonishing Amount of Random Magic Musings

Postby Rhadamanthus on Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:32 am

Gamecube!
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Re: Episode86-A Truly Astonishing Amount of Random Magic Musings

Postby jctyler on Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:16 am

LOL as far as Nintendo I stopped careing after N64.
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Re: Episode86-A Truly Astonishing Amount of Random Magic Musings

Postby Kurai_Seraphim on Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:38 am

Our hearts go out to jctyler, who will never know the joy of Metroid Prime and Mario Kart Wii.
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Re: Episode86-A Truly Astonishing Amount of Random Magic Musings

Postby Rhadamanthus on Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:01 am

Don't forget Eternal Darkness. It was the reason I bought my cube in the first place.
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Re: Episode86-A Truly Astonishing Amount of Random Magic Musings

Postby jctyler on Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:12 pm

Yes but will also never have the heartache of a wiimote through my 46 in LCD. I like my high def, and better games. Blu ray is freaking awesome too. I also just enjoy sitting on my couch to play a game. Since it is a game and I play to relax.
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Re: Episode86-A Truly Astonishing Amount of Random Magic Musings

Postby Kurai_Seraphim on Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:28 pm

I haven't had that come up, as my TV regenerates for a B/G hybrid.
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Re: Episode86-A Truly Astonishing Amount of Random Magic Musings

Postby Dragon of Law on Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:02 am

I prefer to simply equip (for 0) the wristband that gives my surrounding furniture protection from wiimotes. It's a pretty basic piece of equipment these days, and it takes a truly astounding effort to make the wiimote damage anything anymore. My Juzam Djinn, however...

As far as Nintendo vs. Sony vs. IBM, I'm pretty much Nintendo all the way just based on the quality of the games, especially from the variety of programs that the Wii offers. I do miss Duel of the Planeswalkers on the XBox (now that Chewie has shown it to me). I don't at all miss the PS3, as I have my PS2 for my Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts games.

Final Fantasy IV (released II in the US) is probably my favorite video game of all time, but it's got some serious good memories going for it. Yay for The After Years!
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