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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Panahinuva on Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:04 pm

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Re: Rules Questions

Postby trackgod on Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:27 pm

Would the exalted ability work with Nacatl War-Pride if he attacked alone? I am wondering for cards like Finest Hour and Sovereigns of Lost Alara mostly.
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Sucros on Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:46 am

... Hunh... my guess is that it's ability triggers at the same time as exalted and finest hour. If I'm right, in such a case, the controlling player may order the stack however they choose. If so, then you can have exalted/finest hour trigger, and THEN go token making, all of which would get exalted.

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UPDATE: # 10/1/2008: Some effects put creatures into play attacking. Since those creatures were never declared as attackers, they're ignored by exalted abilities. They won't cause exalted abilities to trigger. If any exalted abilities have already triggered (because exactly one creature was declared as an attacker), those abilities will resolve as normal even though there may now be multiple attackers.

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Re: Rules Questions

Postby trackgod on Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:42 pm

Still the War-Pride gets the all the bonuses for the exalted but the tokens do not. IF i had a Silent Arbiter or Dueling Ground out it could get very nasty. Me likes.
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby ssedg1 on Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:41 am

Hello everyone.
I am probably going to sound noobish for asking this but I have no idea so i will ask.
If I play an earthquake or fallout and I am on the same life as my opponent, do we both die at the same time.
If we do, what about if I have more health or they have more health, but the damage will kill us both. Does it do it at the same time.
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Chewbaca X on Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:05 am

So let's say you're at 4 and your opponent is at 2. If for some reason you decide to play a 4 point Earthquake, then yes, the game will end in a tie with both of you dying. You should probably not do that. The same goes for Volcanic Fallout. If it's lethal for both of you, it doesn't matter who has more life, as it all happens at once.
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Kurai_Seraphim on Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:45 am

On a related note, if you're playing in a timed tournament and you run out of time, the game is a tie regardless of who has the most life. As far as winning or losing is concerned, there's no difference between 1 and 20 life; so long as you're both above zero the game considers you equals.
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby lamperouge98 on Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:08 pm

can you trample over indestructible creatures?
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Chewbaca X on Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:20 pm

Yes. You have to apply at least enough damage that WOULD be lethal and the rest can trample over.
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby lamperouge98 on Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:49 pm

Thanks. My friend has a lot of arbitrary rules questions and when neither of us can find the answer he tells me to ask you guys. You're now a reliable source. haha. A follow-up question, i guess. We started thinking and our brains started hurting. How does this stuff work with double strike?
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Rhadamanthus on Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:06 pm

When assigning damage when trample is involved, you look at all other damage the creature has been dealt so far this turn (damage doesn't go away until the cleanup step). You only need to assign enough damage to be lethal in order to be allowed to assign trample damage to the defending player (you can assign more than lethal to the creature if you think it's a good idea). For example, if a Horned Turtle (1/4 nothing) has been Lightning Bolt-ed (3 damage), and then blocks a War Mammoth (3/3 trample), the attacking player is only required to assign 1 more damage to the Turtle if he wants to put some trample damage on the defending player.

If an indestructible creature has already been dealt "lethal" damage by one or multiple sources (that is, damage equal to or greater than its toughness) this turn, then you don't have to assign any more to it if it blocks your creature with trample. All the damage can be piled onto the defending player.
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Captain_Carrot on Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:46 pm

Can kamigawa flip cards be used as generals in E.D.H? (specifically Tobita, master of winds)
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Rhadamanthus on Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:51 pm

Part of a card's default state before any game actions happen to it is Unflipped, meaning the game only recognizes the "first" side when it wants information about the card's characteristics (name, color, casting cost, type, subtype, supertype, etc.) before it becomes Flipped, at which point it starts recognizing the second side. Also, a card can only be Flipped as long as it's on the battlefield, so it will go back to Unflipped if it changes zones. I don't know if there are any special considerations for these cards given in the EDH rules (someone who knows please correct me if I'm wrong), but reason is telling me that only the flip cards from Saviors (who start out as Legendary Creatures) are eligible to be generals.
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Panahinuva on Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:54 pm

Pretty sure you're right there.
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Kurai_Seraphim on Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:03 pm

An older version of the EDH thread on the Wizards forum says "No" for the reason Mike mentioned.

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/ ... ighlander_[EDH]_GeneralOPedia

That said, for general reference, that thread was remade and expanded on here:

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=152979

I haven't personally made an EDH deck, as I don't want to put a lot of effort into something I won't be able to play, but if I did I imagine I'd end up making a silly Arcum Dagsson deck or a fun Doran Spider deck.
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